> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Scott Rowe
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 5:07 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: When is performance really an issue? Was: Running an ISPF
> applicction from one pds
> 
> If it bothers you that much you are going to have to go back to running on
> older (slower) hardware.  It is just not possible without throwing out all
> the innovative features that allow current processors to run at the speeds
> they do.  If you think it's bad now, it will get a lot worse if/when IBM
> introduces SMT in mainframe CPUs.

It's not that I want to go backwards or run on older (slower) hardware.  It's 
just that in this age of dramatically rising software costs most managements 
are asking that existing processes be made as efficient as possible so that 
more CPU power does not have to be purchased to do an increasing volume of 
work.  The only clear measurement of whether you have improved the efficiency 
of a program is whether you have reduced the CPU time it takes to do its job.

Yesterday that meant run it twice (before and after) and show management the 
CPU numbers.  Now you must run it 5 or 10 times and show management the average 
CPU time of all the runs.

I know I have to live with that now, but it doesn't mean I have to like it.  In 
an already-CPU-constrained development environment, running 10 or 20 tests 
instead of just 2 takes longer and longer to complete as every other developer 
in the same environment is forced to do the same.  That frequently results in 
weekend work and a lot less "work/family balance".

Peter

P.S. -- I googled SMT, and I suspect you're right -- if implemented, SMT will 
only make this issue worse.  Oh, joy.

> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> > > Behalf Of Bill Fairchild
> > > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:50 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: When is performance really an issue? Was: Running an ISPF
> > > applicction from one pds
> > >
> > > So what is the "exact" location, velocity, and/or mass of one
> > > particular electron?
> >
> > I didn't mean to ask for "exact", just "nearly the same", not 10% or
> > more different.
> >
> > I know I can't get it, but it's annoying anyway.
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