I agree for the most part. I started off my career with system and sub-system development and systems programming.....
Since I am exposed to a similar circumstance, I found that it's best for one to follow and get a career that they enjoy; Regardless of money. When 'they' want to change ... for whatever the reason, it will be a decision that they themselves made. In the afore circumstance, it too involves a child that's almost completed his undergrad in Music. That said, I've also come to realize that most everyone that wants to go into music ... is very (cranially) similar to people that went into Math or even engineering. I did both and it's so very interesting to see how music major's, given a challenge or problem, progress to resolution. Kind Regards Jim Thomas 617-233-4130 (mobile) 636-294-1014 (res) [email protected] (Email) -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Weber Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 4:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: An upbeat story I always wonder why people go into teaching then discover the money isn't great and then start another higher paying career. Why do they go into education in the first place? Idealistic but not realistic I suppose. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR) Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: An upbeat story The main thing I have found that makes a good sysprog is the ability and drive to not let a problem or issue beat you - that "I will find the damn answer" drive that makes you always try and solve a problem. And you need to have excellent problem solving skills. I've found that good operators can make good sysprogs and programmers if they want to make that move. However, one of the best DBA's I ever worked with had a Music degree in college. He liked music, but he had excellent drive and problem solving skills. And IT paid a lot better than being a music teacher. C. Todd Burrell PMP, MCSE 2003:Security MCITP:Enterprise Administrator Security+, Network+ ITIL V3 Foundations CSC Lead z/OS Systems Programmer ITSO (404) 723-2017 (Cell) -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: An upbeat story I came up through the ranks: Operations -> Systems Programming -> Network Engineering -> Development.... Been a joy almost the entire route, had bumps buts thats life. IMHO its very subjective to ask if Non-IT ppl make better programmers or not. I feel/think there are a lot of variables to consider. Aptitude is a big one ..ability to learn ...self-starter... Scott J Ford ________________________________ From: Rick Fochtman <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 3:22:09 PM Subject: Re: An upbeat story -------------------------------------<snip>--------------------------------- ----- > The "non-IT" thing is interesting. > > At my company we have many application developers that started >elsewhere at the company. Me, for one. I personally had previous IT >skills, and some schooling in programming, but most of the others I believe did not. > > Do non-IT people make better COBOL programmers? Why might that be? > ---------------------------------<unsnip>----------------------------------- --- I started college in a "General Engineering" program. I think that was useful as I had exposure to different types of problems from Mechanical, Civil (What's a "CIVIL" Engineer? A polite one?), Electrical, Chemical and Mining situations. It helped me learn to take a broader look at problems and implement solutions that crossed the so-called boundaries between the various engineering disciplines. So I would guess that non-IT people might have a better grasp of the types of problems that others areas of the company might encounter. 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