"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."

One of my tasks is to teach the others in the group some UNIX. But I don't have 
any guidance on how much to teach. Just enough to do what is needed? Or enough 
to really use UNIX facilities to make like easier? I guess my boss will 
eventually tell me. Also, I'm not a very good teacher, unfortunately. Maybe the 
Rebooks will help. I generally learn by "messing around" with some mentoring. I 
learned UNIX stuff by using Linux at home. 

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 8:54 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: restricting how I do things so that others understand?
> 
> Hi
> 
> Why don't you teach you group to Unix ? ;-)
> If you don't want to keep this project for you, I  would 
> consider the 44 
> byte long MVS dataset names.
> I always wanted to have an option,  to assign long , 
> descriptive alias 
> names to MVS datasets.
> Maybe the "jol" can do this or the "xjcl".
> 
> On 7/19/2011 3:35 PM, John McKown wrote:
> > I'm working on a project which involves "converting" a lot of VSAM
> > files. So far, I've restricted myself to using PDSes and 
> REXX. Everybody
> > in my group (mainframe sysprogs) understands these. But, for my own
> > convenience, I'd like to use UNIX files. Why? Because I can create
> > really long file names, such as: export-jcl.<vsam_dsn>,
> > import-jcl.<vsam_dsn>, define-jcl.<vsam_dsn>, and so forth. 
> But nobody
> > else in my group really "digs" UNIX stuff and none of them, 
> other than
> > myself, actually likes it.
> >
> > So, should I restrict myself to only using generally understandable
> > stuff. Or, since this project is not production (basically do the
> > conversion then ignore it), should I just do it the way 
> that is easiest
> > for me? The problem with this is that there are a large 
> number of files
> > to convert and it will take quite a while. So using UNIX 
> basically means
> > it is my baby entirely.
> >
> >
> 
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