Like, say, IBM's Internet delivery of maintenance and new systems. z/OS 1.12 required a UNIX filesystem on 12 3390-3 volumes totally, due to expansion and the like of the PAX files. I may try DVD delivery next time. But I like the fast turn-around for Internet delivery. Wish I had higher bandwidth. My boss sometimes goes home to download on this FiOS connection, zip to a thumb drive, then brings the data back because it actually takes less time than doing it here.
-- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * [email protected] * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 10:07 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: restricting how I do things so that others understand? > > Not to mention several vendor products that are shipped in > pax format and require Unix knowledge to install them into > MVS datasets from the HFS structure. > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 10:45 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: restricting how I do things so that others understand? > > Re this comment: > In a 2011 MVS environment, knowledge of Unix *is* necessary, > unless you are in a niche, e.g., CICS. > > Have you worked with CICS lately? > CICS installation and maintenance requires HFS files. > Web services and functions all utilize HFS files and > therefore access to Unix. > And of course Java support requires Unix. > This is a drawback for CICS application programmers who do > not know any Unix, or at least OMVS which tries to pass for > Unix on Z/OS. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 4:36 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: restricting how I do things so that others understand? > > In <[email protected]>, > on 07/22/2011 > at 07:37 AM, "McKown, John" <[email protected]> said: > > >Everybody in my group is __old__. > > FSVO. They're younger than me, and I learn new things as appropriate. > Besides, I remember a few "young fogies" who were resistant > to learning anything new. > > >Others learn it because it is necessary. > > In a 2011 MVS environment, knowledge of Unix *is* necessary, > unless you are in a niche, e.g., CICS. > > >The open people are amazed (and some refuse to believe) that I can > >literally lose a CPU on the z with ZERO impact on operations. > > While I was amazed that losing a CPU on a SUN took down the > whole box :-( > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT > ISO position; see <http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html> > We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. > (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access > instructions, send email to [email protected] with the > message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at > http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access > instructions, send email to [email protected] with the > message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at > http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If > you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the > sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. > Thank you. Aetna > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
