I'm not sure why Barbara is so opposed to AUTOIPL in principle, but I can 
see where critical production might be problematic. On the other hand, 
I've seldom seen a system truly hang (from XCF's point of view) for an 
extended period and then miraculously recover. The 'extended period' is 
user-defined based on settings in the SFM policy. You can set a very long 
hang time if you're concerned about premature system whacking, but IBM has 
long maintained that a near-death sysplex experience is (most?) often 
resolved by expeditious re-IPL. That is, outage to the client may well be 
less in the long run than with the time honored tradition of conference 
calling everyone up to the CIO for concurrence.

Also to clarify: there is a REIPL option on the VARY XCF OFF command. This 
is very useful when you just want to bounce a system for whatever reason. 
No delay, no switching sysres volume. This option is totally separate from 
AUTOIPL, which is intended to repair a sick system while getting doc on 
the problem, all without manual intervention. 


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From:   Edward Jaffe <[email protected]>
To:     [email protected]
Date:   09/30/2011 10:42 AM
Subject:        Re: AUTOIPL (was Re: Health Check 
(IBMSVA,SVA_AUTOIPL_DEFINED)
Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]>



On 9/30/2011 10:17 AM, Mark Zelden wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 00:11:07 -0500, Barbara Nitz<[email protected]> 
wrote:
>
>> Let's see if the rest of the autoipl function is as bad.
> Use it, love it.   Long time coming...   VM has had a reipl option 
"forever".

Just to clarify: although the results appear similar, what z/VM has done 
'forever' is not actually a reIPL.

z/OS is using a relatively new System z hardware function that reIPLs the 
LPAR. 
This is a _real_ IPL!

z/VM was simulating that by shutting down (almost completely, but not 
quite) and 
then branching back to the top of the code from within the _same IPL_ as 
understood by the hardware.

-- 
Edward E Jaffe


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