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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Rob Schramm
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:06 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Data encrypt
> 
> Seems like it would be something complicated... but it isn't.
> 
> The requirement has already been met.  Just do the coding normally for
> a symmetric key that will be managed as a secure key with ICSF.  Turn
> on the RACF classes that change how the key is managed and moves it
> into Protected Key... and viola... you are done!  The system will wrap
> it and move it into HSA.   ICSF will do the work to use CPACF for the
> encryption / decryption process.

Yes, but if I understand your point and the reading I've done in the links you 
sent earlier correctly, this path requires the availability of a crypto 
coprocessor to create the symmetric (secure) key in the first place.  I was 
speaking of the case where no coprocessor at all is available, ONLY the CPACF 
instructions.

You are not saying that this RACF profile can be created for a labeled clear 
key stored in the ICSF key store, are you?

> Granted there is more overhead when you use ICSF than using the CPACF
> instructions directly.. but overhead will be minimal in comparison...
> still giving the caller a huge performance gain over typical Secure
> Key.

"Better than Secure Key" I can believe is true, based on the performance 
numbers in the IBM links you sent.  But I would argue that the overhead of ICSF 
subroutines for clear key (or protected key) operations is NOT minimal by 
comparison with direct assembler KM/KMC implementations, but is quite large, 
especially for very high volume batch applications (at least from the testing I 
have done so far).

Peter
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