Sir,

Hear hear ... 

Somewhat of a similar experience but in the early 60's, my professors'
(physics and chemical) believed that 
experiments were merely a course of steps (process / action) to prove or
disprove a theory (hence, as with 
your experience, there were no failures... unless ofcourse, you simply did
not experiment). 

That taught me a valuable lesson, to date, in life no less. 


Kind Regards

Jim Thomas
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Of Chris Mason
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 6:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: TSO on z/OS 1.12 with LOGONHERE and multisystem logon

John

During one lesson in the physics laboratory at school - in the 1950s! - I
was told that experiments (tests) never fail. IIRC, the idea of our superb
physics master was that you shouldn't enter into any scientific experiment
with a preconceived idea what the result should be. Thus you can't get into
the situation that you "succeed" if you get the result you expect and you
"fail" if you get another result.

There is, of course, a sense where an experiment either succeeds or fails
depending on how clear a result you get but this is a matter of how well or
otherwise you design the experiment.

Your post brought back the memory of that important lesson!

Chris Mason

On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 14:47:25 -0600, McKown, John
<[email protected]> wrote:

> ...
>
>I couldn't think of any reason it would be a problem. But I just was too
anxious to wait to see on the 18th. I wanted to test this weekend, but did
not get ready in time to put in the request. And, around here, you get
"dinged" if you do something without a request. And you also get "dinged" if
you put in a request to test something, and then don't do it. So it's
difficult to get permission to "test, if I'm ready, but not test if I'm not
ready". And doing a test which "fails" also gets a "ding". FVSO "fail".
Because if you don't get a failure when you want one, your test failed to
fail, which is a failure? I get so confused some times.
>
>--
>John McKown

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