Just to make a point...there are more than IBM and Unisys in the (what I
believe to be the true, IMHO) mainframe game.  

There's Groupe Bull, Fujitsu-Siemens, Fujitsu and Hitachi.  (Not all are
available in the USA, two due to legal reasons.)  

And the F-S systems have their own version of Unix that can run under their
own hypervisor (VM2000).

-- 
M. Ray Mullins 
Roseville, CA, USA 
http://www.catherdersoftware.com/
http://www.mrmullins.big-bear-city.ca.us/ 
http://www.the-bus-stops-here.org/ 

German is essentially a form of assembly language consisting entirely of far
calls heavily accented with throaty guttural sounds. 

--ilvi 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John S. Giltner, Jr.
> Sent: Tuesday 27 December 2005 14:22
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: DMV systems?
> 
> as400 wrote:
> > Well, thanks for this information..I really appreciate it...
> > 
> > And lastly, can Solaris (UNIX) be ran on a Mainframe or 
> not? Because 
> > you said:
> > 
> > " would say that most of the systems were mainframe based (IBM and
> > Unisys) and non-Unix based OS's:"
> > 
> > Please advise.
> > 
> 
> It depends on your definition of what a "mainframe" is.  That 
> I am aware of Solaris can only be run on x86 systems and 
> systems based on Sun's Sparc processor.  I have not seen a 
> x86 system or a Sparc system labeled as a "mainframe."  I 
> have seen some advertised as "mainframe like performance" and 
> "mainframe like relibility", but I have not (at least I do 
> not remember any) seen Sun advertise one of their boxes as a 
> mainframe.
> 
> If you remove the "(IBM and Unisys)" you have:
> 
> " would say that most system were mainframe based and 
> non-Unix based OS 's".
> 
> Meaning both mainframe and non-Unix.  As Solaris is Unix it 
> does not fit in the above category.  The reason for my 
> statements is that I know that IBM is not the only company 
> that has made mainframes and that mainframe traditionally do 
> not run a OS that is called "Unix."  You hear about people 
> with IBM mainframes running z/OS, z/VM, etc or I have a 
> Unisys xxx running MCP (I think that is the OS name).
> 
> The part where it starts getting confusing is that z/OS is 
> branded "Unix", as is it predecessors (MVS with the Open 
> Edition option and OS/390).  When most people say Unix they 
> mean things like AIX, Solaris, HP-UX, and SCO Unix.  They 
> normally do not mean z/OS.

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