>> I would challenge IBM to put on the Internet and publiclly make 
>> available a bunch of MVS
>> (virtual machines under VM) Thus effectively allow MVS at 
>> home for everyone desiring to develop MVS open-source. This 
>> will spread also MVS skills which is in IBM interest.
>Maybe this could be raised at SHARE/WAVV/(equivalent z/TPF user 
conference)?

That sounds like the best idea to me, FWIW.  SHARE (and similar) really do 
seem to drive requirements quite well.

>The lethargic inertia inherent in the IBM management structure is 
probably
>our worst enemy.  Although there are a few savvy IBM types that monitor 
this
>list (Timothy Sipples, are you listing?  *g*  ) and might be able to
>short-circuit the process.

Savvy?  Wow, thanks.

I do know that IBM is making z/OS available at no charge to students and 
faculty at any college or university that cares to sign up.  (Over 200 
institutions already have.)  There are several university zSeries machines 
scattered about the globe and equipped with lots of wonderful z/OS 
software.  If I were savvy I'd pay the minor tuition expense at a local 
community college so I could get my z/OS fix.  (In some parts of the world 
tuition is free -- or, more precisely, already included with your tax 
bill.)  Or if I were really savvy I'd teach a mainframe class at my local 
college, get my mainframe access (since I'm now faculty), and get paid in 
the process.  Or if I were really really savvy I'd teach a mainframe 
class, get my mainframe access, get paid, and use my extra income to buy a 
z800 so that I could start my own hosting business and get even more 
mainframe access!

Details here:

http://www.developer.ibm.com/us/en/university/scholars/products/zseries/

I know that z/OS, z/VM, and Linux on zSeries/z9 are all part of the 
program.  Not sure about z/VSE and z/TPF, but obviously it can't hurt to 
ask.

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Timothy F. Sipples
Consulting Enterprise Software Architect
IBM Americas zSeries/z9 Software
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