jim.marsh...@opm.gov (Jim Marshall) writes: > In 1978 I had the honor to have the first IBM 3032 shipped (#000006) > into the Pentagon when I worked at the Air Force Data Services Center. > I already had in place an IBM 360-75J which ran TSO. With the IBM > 3032 came IPO 1.0 and we also receive the full-screen product called > "IBM 3270 Display and Structure Prgramming Facility" or as people > called it SPF. > > Later in the early 1980s it morphed into ISPF and a few years later it > split into ISPF and PDF. PDF came with all the facilities to write > ISPF applications. It was for those who did not want to buy the > precoded ISPF dialogs. Then in the middle 1980s I also worked on VM > and their was an ISPF and PDF for VM. The notion was you'd learn ISPF > and it would be almost the same in both world. Except the diehard > VM'ers loved CMS. > > Later in the early 1990s I recall ISPF and PDF merged back into ISPF; > except over in VM where it remains today. If you look at VM's > DIRMAINT software it will have a pre-requisite of these products but > indeed only if you want to use their precoded ISPF application. Save > your money. > > Very interesting times. Jim Marshall, Capt, USAF-Ret
old email http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#email790404 about afds coming to visit about large number of vm/4341s ... posted in multics newsgroup: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#12 having been a little rivalry between the 4th&5th floors; some of the ctss people went to 5th flr and did multics and others went to the science center on the 4th flr and did virtual machines (first cp40/cms on specially modified 360/40 with hardware virtual memory which morphs into cp67/cms when 360/67 became available and later morphs into vm370). past posts about science center http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech recent post about vm performance tools were combined in the same organization with ISPF ... http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#42 CMS load module format problem was company having a difficult time with the unbundling announcement and charging for application software ... unbundling http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle guidelines was price had to cover costs, this was somethings interpreted as organization costs had to be covered by software revenue. there were a number of traditional software products that were combined with various vm370 products ... where the aggregate revenue covered aggregate costs (in the ISPF case, ISPF and vm370 performance products both had approx. the same revenue; ISPF had a couple hundred people while vm370 performance products was held to 3 people and limited new development ... aka nearly all revenue going to fund ISPF). unrelated Date: 9 August 1984, 13:35:48 EDT From: xxxxxx To: wheeler Recently I saw on an APL disk in San Jose an announcement of something called VMSHARE. It appears to be a repository of information for VM users both in and out of IBM. I would greatly appreciate it if you could send be any information you might have about it, such as how I may get access to such information, and how I might make contributions to it. I am a general user on a small VM system, I do have my own copies of the IBMVM conferencing EXECs (if that is of any help) and I am very interested in the opinions of users outside IBM as well as developments in VM usage in general. Thank you very much for your assistance, xxxxxx ISPF/PDF Development ... snip ... tymshare provided online vm370 commerical online service ... in aug 1976 there started making their vm370/cms-based computer conferening available free to SHARE as vmshare ... archived here http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/ I then managed to get corporate approval to "shadow" vmshare ... making it available inside the company (had to jump through hoops with lawyers whether external vmshare information would contaminate corporate employees). misc. old email mentioning vmshare http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#vmshare I had also been blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network ... some past posts about internal network http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet folklore is that when the executive committee was informed of computer conferencing (and the internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire me. misc. past posts mentioning computer mediated converstation http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#cmc -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
