On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Lloyd Fuller <leful...@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> UNICODE does, but not necessarily subsets of the full UNICODE.  UTF-8 is a
> subset and UTF-16 is a subset.  I am not sure about UTF-32.
>
> So It does not surprise me that UTF-8 does not have the Hebrew alphabet.  I
> believe (without checking the actual UNICODE description) that UTF-8 is
> primarily the Latin character and its derivatives (i.e. the umlaut
> characters
> and the accent characters).  I think that you have to go to UTF-16 to get
> the
> Hebrew, Cyrillic and Arabic characters.  I think that UTF-16 also includes
> most
> of the common Chinese and Japanese characters, but to get the full set you
> need
> UTF-32.
>
> UTF-8 is a variable length encoding.  It can be 1 to 6 bytes in length.
 It fully support Hebrew and many other non-Romance based character sets.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-8 for an overview.

See


> Lloyd
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Steve Comstock <st...@trainersfriend.com>
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Sent: Mon, March 26, 2012 9:18:17 AM
> Subject: Re: z/OS ftp and Unicode
>
> On 3/26/2012 7:12 AM, McKown, John wrote:
> > I don't know if this will help, but I did the following (but I don't have
> >anything actually in IBM-424)
> >
> > Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
> > (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
> >
> >> ftp lih1
> > Connected to lih1.uicnrh.dom.
> > 220-FTP 08:07:14 on 2012-03-26.
> > 220-This is HealthMarkets.
> > 220-Unauthorized access is strictly prohibited.
> > 220 Connection will close if idle for more than 50 minutes.
> > User (lih1.uicnrh.dom:(none)): tsh009
> > 331 Send password please.
> > Password:
> > 230-You have successfully logged on to the LIH1 ftp server.
> > 230 TSH009 is logged on.  Working directory is "TSH009.".
> > ftp>  quote site sbdataconn=(IBM-424,UTF-8)
> > 200-Some characters cannot be translated between UTF-8 and IBM-424
>
> Whoa! That's startling. I thought Unicode encompassed all the
> world's character sets; how can a character not translate?
>
>
> > 200 SITE command was accepted
> > ftp>  cd /home/tsh009
> > 250 HFS directory /home/tsh009 is the current working directory
> > ftp>  get crontab.txt
> > 200 Port request OK.
> > 125-Tagged EBCDIC file translated with table built using file system
> >cp=IBM-1047
> > , network transfer cp=UTF-8
> > 125 Sending data set /home/tsh009/crontab.txt
> > 250 Transfer completed successfully.
> > ftp: 40 bytes received in 0.00Seconds 40000.00Kbytes/sec.
> > ftp>
> >
> > --
> > John McKown
> > Systems Engineer IV
> > IT
> >
> > Administrative Services Group
> >
> > HealthMarkets®
> >
> > 9151 Boulevard 26 • N. Richland Hills • TX 76010
> > (817) 255-3225 phone •
> > john.mck...@healthmarkets.com • www.HealthMarkets.com
> >
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> >HealthMarkets® is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by
> the
> >insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. –The Chesapeake Life
> Insurance
> >Company®, Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The
> MEGA
> >Life and Health Insurance Company.SM
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> >> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of ??? ?? ???
> >> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:23 AM
> >> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> >> Subject: Re: z/OS ftp and Unicode
> >>
> >> I'm not sure what you mean buy CCSID, but the data is encoded
> >> in IBM-424 EBCDIC - Hebrew New Code.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> >> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John
> >> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 2:20 PM
> >> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> >> Subject: Re: z/OS ftp and Unicode
> >>
> >> What is CCSID of the data on z/OS? By Unicode, do you mean
> >> UTF-8, UTF-16, or UTF-32 on Windows? The basic command is the
> >> SBDATACONN
> >>
> >> http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/f1a
> >> 1b4b0/18.109
> >>
> >> --
> >> John McKown
> >> Systems Engineer IV
> >> IT
> >>
> >> Administrative Services Group
> >>
> >> HealthMarkets®
> >>
> >> 9151 Boulevard 26 • N. Richland Hills • TX 76010
> >> (817) 255-3225 phone •
> >> john.mck...@healthmarkets.com • www.HealthMarkets.com
> >>
> >>
> >> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain
> >> confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the
> >> intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail
> >> and destroy all copies of the original message.
> >> HealthMarkets® is the brand name for products underwritten
> >> and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets,
> >> Inc. –The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company®, Mid-West
> >> National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA
> >> Life and Health Insurance Company.SM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> >>> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of ??? ?? ???
> >>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 3:49 AM
> >>> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> >>> Subject: z/OS ftp and Unicode
> >>>
> >>> Can anyone show me how to transfer a file from z/OS to
> >>> windows using the windows ftp client so that the resulting
> >>> file on windows is Unicode.
> >>>
> >>> The source file on z/OS will be EBCDIC.
> >>>
> >>> We are using z/OS v1.11.
> >>>
> >>> Unicode services are enabled on z/OS.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> Gadi
> >>>
>
>
>
>
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>
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