So far complaints on the new verbose behavior seem to have come from folks who are not yet running R13. The ESP customers who induced the change were already immersed in R13 and knew first hand how *useless* verbose messages are in syslog/operlog. Does everyone understand that verbose messages are nothing but chunks of prose lifted from the message manual? They are not sophisticated diagnostic guides that might provide unique insight into solving a particular abend. They just save you a trip to your favorite doc library. Over and over ad nauseam.
These endlessly repetitive annotations clutter up syslog/operlog. Flotsam and jetsam that we can all live better with in a location closer to the actual problem. . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: "W. Kevin Kelley" <wkkel...@optonline.net> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 05/06/2012 06:04 PM Subject: Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages? Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu> Mark, You are correct -- there is now no option to put the additional lines of explanation in the SYSLOG/OPERLOG. We reacted to what we heard from the ESP customers, and to quote you perhaps they "overreacted". That is why I put the post out here, to hear what other people think. W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
