On Mon, 7 May 2012 09:45:23 -0700, Skip Robinson <jo.skip.robin...@sce.com> wrote:
>So far complaints on the new verbose behavior seem to have come from folks >who are not yet running R13. I am running it in 6 sandbox environments, but you are correct that it hasn't hit development nor production yet. I like what I see so far. The ESP customers who induced the change were >already immersed in R13 and knew first hand how *useless* verbose messages >are in syslog/operlog. Does everyone understand that verbose messages are >nothing but chunks of prose lifted from the message manual? They are not >sophisticated diagnostic guides that might provide unique insight into >solving a particular abend. They just save you a trip to your favorite doc >library. Over and over ad nauseam. > >These endlessly repetitive annotations clutter up syslog/operlog. Flotsam >and jetsam that we can all live better with in a location closer to the >actual problem. > >. See my previous post that had real life numbers on what I expect to see. Hardly a clutter compared to what is already in syslog/operalog. I asked for some of you ESP people who gave the initial feedback (or anyone else) for your real life numbers as to what you considered clutter. I haven't seen any responses yet. See the last paragraph of this post: https://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1205&L=ibm-main&D=1&O=D&T=0&P=140934 -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
