Please. *NEVER EVER* APPLY (with or without CHECK) using BYPASS(HOLDERROR) unless you are EXPLICITLY instructed to do so by a Level 2 or 3 support person. If hold errors can be resolved in the current APPLY job, then they will be resolved by fixing PTFs. Otherwise let PE PTFs fail. They will not hurt you nearly as much as forcing on a PTF that has known but as yet unresolvable errors. Sysprogs often try too hard to get CC 0 when CC 8 is fine--provided you understand why.
After APPLY CHECK with BYPASS(HOLDSYS), inspect all hold data to make sure it's safe to proceed. Watch for requirements to install simultaneously on all sharing systems (rare) or to install a particular PTF on all sharing members as a prerequisite to installing some other PTF on any member (not rare). If a PTF is marked in error but there is no fix for the PE APAR, then let it fail. The CAUSER report will summarize the 'initial cause' failures very concisely. Look there first and last. The answer to the question 'when to clean up HOLDDATA' is always 'tomorrow'. If a fixing PTF--or in extreme cases an APAR test fix--cannot be obtained, then leave the bad PTF off for now. Your system will not suffer for lack of a bad PTF unless you desperately need something else in the chain. That's where explicit advice from support may override the rule. Even then proceed with awe and trepidation. And a freshly updated resume. One of the hardest lessons to learn as a sysprog is this: No matter how hard you try, it's always broken. Broken big. Broken small. Usually broken so slightly that you wouldn't even know if it weren't for Enhanced Hold Data. Thank POK for EHD. Most other platforms have nothing comparable: machine readable information on maintenance problems that you can investigate and then make informed decisions on how to proceed. Informed, not guaranteed. Here's a variant of an old saw in our profession: Nobody ever got fired for refusing to jam on a broken PTF. . . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> wrote on 01/17/2006 05:05:37 PM: > Hello everyone, > > I am installing an ESO tape. I encountered few problems and need help. > > 1. REVEIVEd with HOLDDATA (downloaded from Enhnaced HOLDDATA). > 2. Apply check with bypass(holdsys,holderror(xxxxxxx, xxxxxxx) where > xxxxxxx is form example DK07323 ( APAR PK07323). I checked PK07323 which > can be resolved. > > My question is should I APPLY with BYPASS(HOLDSYS,HOLDERR(xxxxxxx,,,,). > and at what stage should I try to cleanup HOLDDATA. > > Thanks > > Ale ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

