Pat,

Thanks for clearing this up.

I'm afraid this was a failure of newsgroup technique. I initially thought I
had nothing to contribute here and I had deleted all posts in my
mailchecker. Then I reviewed the thread in Google groups and spotted the
possible BNJ confusion. Not having a suitable - actually any - post to reply
to I invented the reply - but used the newsgroup name I'd suggested should
have been used to start the thread.

Chris Mason

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, 18 January, 2006 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: What starts Netview?


> Chris,
> I don't see that your posting made it to IBM-Main (where the original
> thread was) so John, Sam, and Craig may not have seen your kudos.  I'll
> double-post this response to get it back there.
>
> Yes, I know poor, benighted Bruce is beyond hope - trying to get rid of
> NetView and all (Are my prejudices showing again?) - but I thought others
> still using NetView might have misunderstood the comments about getting
rid
> of BNJMTERM.
>
>   Pat O'Keefe
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Chris Mason
>   Sent: Tue 01/17/2006 4:24 PM
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: [NetView] Re: What starts Netview?
>
>   Another side issue is that this whole thread would have been better spun
> in the NetView newsgroup:
>   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NetView/
>
>   However here's my two eurocents.
>
>   Unfortunately I'm having to do this from manuals from which I hope to
get
> reminders of when I was intimately involved
>   with these things.
>
>   The program that starts NetView is in the sample procedure CNMSJ009,
> changed to the name CNMPROC for production
>   use, and, as Pat has indicated, the program has the name BNJLINTX. I
found
> a set of startup messages which contained
>   the message BNJ080I BNJLINTB - BUFFER SIZE=24K,SLOT SIZE=200. From the
> message description I see that BNJLINTB
>   is the Hardware Monitor "initializer" module which I expect gets control
> from BNJLINTX at a very early stage. The purpose
>   of the message is to show the values given to the "buffer size" and
"slot
> size" in the PARM field of the EXEC statement
>   calling the NetView program.
>
>   All modules beginning with the three characters BNJ belong to the
NetView
> Hardware Monitor component of NetView
>   (which originally had the name Network Problem Determination
Application,
> NPDA). For reasons to do with the way the
>   Network Logical Data Manager (NLDM), the Session Monitor component of
> NetView, and NPDA programs were packaged
>   within the tasking structure of Network Communication Control Facility
> (NCCF), the base function of NetView also simply
>   called the Command Facility component, an NPDA module needs to get
control
> first.
>
>   Expanding on what Pat said, CNMNDEF is a way of creating a member of
> VTAMLST entity names and types - I'm relying on
>   memory here but it's in line with a manual reference I found. An
accurate,
> up-to-date version of this member is needed by
>   the "Status Monitor" component of NetView and so needs to be available
> when the Status Monitor component is initialised
>   at some point during NetView start-up. I guess there's probably also a
way
> of reloading the Status Monitor member while
>   NetView is active after having again run this "preprocessor" program.
The
> manuals I am trying to use are for NetView 5.2
>   so nothing would appear "radically" to have "changed".
>
>   I'm happy - in retrospect - as are others not in retrospect - that the
> rather messy BNJMTERM requirement is now handled
>   better and with less transparency.
>
>   Let me congratulate John Eells, Sam Knutson and Craig Gordon for having
> comprehensively and neatly dealt with the
>   CSECT IEAVTRML issue.
>
>   Will I be booed off the court if I mention I vaguely remember a third
name
> I had to worry about in that CSECT?
>
>   Bruce, just make sure that your NetView and IMS are at the appropriate
> levels not to need the "zap" and then reverse
>   the "zap". Document your research and copy any interested parties so
that
> your posterior will be safe when the "why did
>   we crash" meeting is held :-)
>
>   Pat, if Bruce is trying to get rid of NetView - sacrilege I know - there
> will not be any need for any BNJ modules anywhere.
>   Incidentally, the original poster is this heretic Bruce :-)
>
>   I hope that's cleared everything up ...
>
>   Chris Mason

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