Pat, Thanks for clearing this up.
I'm afraid this was a failure of newsgroup technique. I initially thought I had nothing to contribute here and I had deleted all posts in my mailchecker. Then I reviewed the thread in Google groups and spotted the possible BNJ confusion. Not having a suitable - actually any - post to reply to I invented the reply - but used the newsgroup name I'd suggested should have been used to start the thread. Chris Mason ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 18 January, 2006 6:24 AM Subject: Re: What starts Netview? > Chris, > I don't see that your posting made it to IBM-Main (where the original > thread was) so John, Sam, and Craig may not have seen your kudos. I'll > double-post this response to get it back there. > > Yes, I know poor, benighted Bruce is beyond hope - trying to get rid of > NetView and all (Are my prejudices showing again?) - but I thought others > still using NetView might have misunderstood the comments about getting rid > of BNJMTERM. > > Pat O'Keefe > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Chris Mason > Sent: Tue 01/17/2006 4:24 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [NetView] Re: What starts Netview? > > Another side issue is that this whole thread would have been better spun > in the NetView newsgroup: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NetView/ > > However here's my two eurocents. > > Unfortunately I'm having to do this from manuals from which I hope to get > reminders of when I was intimately involved > with these things. > > The program that starts NetView is in the sample procedure CNMSJ009, > changed to the name CNMPROC for production > use, and, as Pat has indicated, the program has the name BNJLINTX. I found > a set of startup messages which contained > the message BNJ080I BNJLINTB - BUFFER SIZE=24K,SLOT SIZE=200. From the > message description I see that BNJLINTB > is the Hardware Monitor "initializer" module which I expect gets control > from BNJLINTX at a very early stage. The purpose > of the message is to show the values given to the "buffer size" and "slot > size" in the PARM field of the EXEC statement > calling the NetView program. > > All modules beginning with the three characters BNJ belong to the NetView > Hardware Monitor component of NetView > (which originally had the name Network Problem Determination Application, > NPDA). For reasons to do with the way the > Network Logical Data Manager (NLDM), the Session Monitor component of > NetView, and NPDA programs were packaged > within the tasking structure of Network Communication Control Facility > (NCCF), the base function of NetView also simply > called the Command Facility component, an NPDA module needs to get control > first. > > Expanding on what Pat said, CNMNDEF is a way of creating a member of > VTAMLST entity names and types - I'm relying on > memory here but it's in line with a manual reference I found. An accurate, > up-to-date version of this member is needed by > the "Status Monitor" component of NetView and so needs to be available > when the Status Monitor component is initialised > at some point during NetView start-up. I guess there's probably also a way > of reloading the Status Monitor member while > NetView is active after having again run this "preprocessor" program. The > manuals I am trying to use are for NetView 5.2 > so nothing would appear "radically" to have "changed". > > I'm happy - in retrospect - as are others not in retrospect - that the > rather messy BNJMTERM requirement is now handled > better and with less transparency. > > Let me congratulate John Eells, Sam Knutson and Craig Gordon for having > comprehensively and neatly dealt with the > CSECT IEAVTRML issue. > > Will I be booed off the court if I mention I vaguely remember a third name > I had to worry about in that CSECT? > > Bruce, just make sure that your NetView and IMS are at the appropriate > levels not to need the "zap" and then reverse > the "zap". Document your research and copy any interested parties so that > your posterior will be safe when the "why did > we crash" meeting is held :-) > > Pat, if Bruce is trying to get rid of NetView - sacrilege I know - there > will not be any need for any BNJ modules anywhere. > Incidentally, the original poster is this heretic Bruce :-) > > I hope that's cleared everything up ... > > Chris Mason ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

