>>Sure wish you could convince my CIO of this.

All CIOs eventually reconcile their activities with their CFOs. Some more 
dramatically than others. :-)

>It's what I said: it has little to do with the
>business case, really. IBM has lost the hearts
>and minds of the young management as far as the
>mainframe is concerned. Of course the financials
>are important, but as long as the attitude of
>the people who choose the systems is reflected
>in the sentend "Nobody uses mainframes anymore."
>(new CIO for Colorado Department of Revenue),
>they will not even pay attention to the numbers.

Government is at least a little bit different, but costs do matter. 
Sometimes they matter "slowly," but eventually they matter. Every day 
there's more global competition, and there's at least one of your 
competitors which doesn't hold a costly bias. Chinese companies, for 
example, seem to have no problem buying mainframes.

Let the best technology win, I say. (That'll be situational, of course. 
There are good reasons for having many different types of computers.)

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Timothy F. Sipples
Consulting Enterprise Software Architect, z9/zSeries
IBM Japan, Ltd.
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