>Well, we've got 2800+ mips in 2 z990s running DB2 for SAP. We are in
>the process of converting to run it all on Oracle, AIX and Pseries
>servers. I don't deal with the financial end, but I'm told we'll be
>saving lotsa $$.
>It looks like I'll be hanging up my mainframe hat (98% of it) sometime
>in May, after 25 years...

Funny, Baldor Electric runs a 100% mainframe SAP installation (using Linux 
on z and DB2 z/OS) and spends less that just about anyone running SAP on 
anything.  And they have the total cost numbers to prove it. 
(Computerworld had a nice article looking at a similar sized company to 
Baldor to determine IT spend as a percentage of sales, and it happened to 
be a comparison with a heavy Oracle shop.  Baldor is amazingly efficient.) 
 I would set up a call with Baldor.  You're both manufacturing industry, 
so it should be relevant.  You two might have a supplier relationship, for 
all I know.  (Baldor builds electric generators.)

I'm also assuming you're not a 24x7 (or nearly so) SAP shop?  I would have 
expected Bombardier would be.

I'm wondering if your management has read anything from Gartner lately 
about Oracle.  Here's one interesting article:

http://www.informationweek.com/software/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=177104038

I would also rerun the numbers with zIIP.  That just changed things 
radically.

I'm puzzled that DB2 distributed wasn't apparently considered.  IBM and 
SAP have a very good relationship across the entire DB2 family, and DB2 
tends to be more total-cost affordable on any platform.

And, lastly, I would ask IBM (BCS, not hardware or software) for a 
"Scorpion" study.

Good luck.

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Timothy F. Sipples
Consulting Enterprise Software Architect, z9/zSeries
IBM Japan, Ltd.
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