Rex,

Sure.

We expected the z990 IP console function to work as solidly and reliably
as those that are locally connected to the 3174 controllers.  That is,
they should be easy to use, robust, reliable, not drop out during normal
usage.  Additionally, we expected the TCPIP aspect of these console
connections to work as well as over vended products (like the Automation
Point Viewer remote console for example); It should allow as many people
on at the same time as we need it to with no problems, since after all,
this is IP we're talking about and it should take advantage of the
versatility of the architecture.

We were sorely disappointed in our setup and testing of these OSA
console connections.  They would come up easily enough, and allow
connection using a telnet session over our intranet through Attachmate
or Reflections, but no more than one person could be connected to a
console at a time.  When more than one person attempted to get into the
same console at the same time, or at random intervals (from hours to
days), the connections to the ICC consoles would drop without giving any
kind of definitive error code in SYSLOG (you could see the CN switch,
but no consistent reason to troubleshoot).  Multi-connect seemed to make
the ICC consoles lockup.  To get the consoles back on, we had to go
through an annoyingly long sequence of vary console, vary device, and
reset console commands to get it working again so that we could telnet
back into it.

Where we had expected it to come up, and stay up from IPL to IPL, we
were very disappointed.  Where we had expected to be able to restore
connectivity with one vary console command, again we were disappointed.
Clearly, the ICC console capability is useful, but more as a disaster
recovery or HMC console replacement and is not ready for prime time.

We did have IBM's direct support and help in getting the consoles up and
working, and working through the problems we had.  The issues we had
could not be resolved well enough for us to recommend replacing our 3174
MCS with ICC consoles this time.

Perhaps in a later iteration, this product will be more suited for our
needs.  Maybe it's already good enough for what you need, but we weren't
happy with what we saw when we did our own demo.

Very best regards,

Gary Diehl



-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R.
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: z990 IP Consoles


Gary,

Can you elaborate on the flaky comment?  We're evaluating replacing our
7060 Multiprise with a z890 and were going to use the OSA console
support pretty much exclusively.  

Thanks,

Rex

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