Mike Baker wrote:
Hi Ron,

Thanks for your excellent explanation. (PS: I attended one of your VSAM
courses in Wellington, New Zealand, back in the early 90s).

Just to elaborate on the "lots of redundant datasets" and HLQ's...  for
example, we have a HLQ called "BUS", and approx 9000 BUS.* datasets of
which about 95% of them have been migrated to tape. The remaining 5% which
are still being used are because people have been to lazy(?) to change a
few remaining jobs to use a different HLQ. We could safely change these 5%
remaining jobs, and then delete all BUS.* datasets.

However, seeing as this has not been done, would this have much of an
overhead performance impact on the Catalog / CAS??

Could you please elaborate on this finer detail?

Thanks very much.
...
That the datasets have migrated to tape doesn't mean they are either obsolete or "redundant", just that they haven't been accessed recently. This is still true even if all your "BUS.**" datasets are migrated to tape. They may still be needed for some types of recovery, as part of a historical archive, or possibly to satisfy legal requirements for retention of corporate data. Someone with knowledge of the application area will have to judge whether these considerations apply and what is eligible for permanent deletion and when.

If you can get the application people to agree that datasets not accessed since date "x" may be deleted, then there is no reason those datasets couldn't be deleted today - no need to wait on the remaining datasets. ISMF can be used to generate a list of datasets with a last-referenced date prior to "x", and then that list could be massaged by various methods into a sequence of DELete commands for those datasets and executed. Better yet, if possible make all future datasets SMS-managed and assign an appropriate SMS management class so future deletions occur automatically after an agreed-upon interval of non reference. I would be primarily motivated by the general principal that leaving truly useless things around is bad idea, but cleaning things up might also save on some resources, such as the number of migration tapes in use.

Catalog overhead would not be that much of an issue, unless people frequently display and hunt through lists of all BUS.** datasets rather than specifying a specific-enough search argument to restrict consideration to the actual datasets of interest.

Another possible issue is that these migrated datasets may be mixed among datasets that do get scratched on your migration tapes. If that is the case, you could be wasting resources copying these migrated BUS datasets repeatedly as migration tapes are consolidated through recycle activity.

That having been said, I have seen cases where it was judged that the overhead costs of keeping possibly-useless migrated datasets around was less than the cost of diverting scarce resources to accurately determine whether the datasets were really needed.
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Joel C. Ewing, Fort Smith, AR        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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