Steve's post prompts me to relate our MVS Unix/Linux experience - this is in
no way meant to disparage Steve's efforts for courses...

>Now, the ability to run UNIX on the mainframe melds a lot of strengths:
>flexibility (run classic mainframe apps and UNIX apps on the same box), 

You'd better not. We are running a clustered Lotus Domino Server on our
boxes and have to run several unix apps (ADSM - whatever that's called these
days, WBIFN - gateway to the SWIFT net and Websphere Application Server). We
found out very fast that these beasties tend to take over more than their
share of processing power, so all of these UNIX apps quickly got their own
lpar where traditional workload did not have to compete with these cpu hogs.

>scalability, reduced footprint, 

reduced footprint?!?
Even confined to their own lpars, the Dominoes take everything in terms of
assigned processors and lpar weight, to the detriment of other lpars. And if
these Unix dominated lpars don't get what they want, they stop working
altogether. 

We are in the process of moving the UNIX apps to Linux under VM, where they
can use the other type of processors and save us a lot of software costs
(BMC is killing us, followed by CA.) Did I mention that we now run almost as
many Linuxes as we run MVS lpars? Reduced foortprint?!?

>Utilize the legendary strengths of the mainframe

One of which was first failure data capture (and it worked, too, given the
right knowledge in looking at a dump). All of these UNIX apps have never
even heard the term first failure data capture, much less are familiar with
the concept. With the exception of maybe one (stupid) user error on our
part, IBM has proved incapable time and again to look at dumps (even those
written by the product itself) and find a problem. Unless you can reproduce
the problem, provided you have an inkling how, you get a lot of crap which
always involves restarting a high availability application.

And without a complaint on top a sev1/prio1 IBM doesn't even look at the
problem, much less solve it. Even with a complaint, all we get is what we
call in German 'holding hands' - meaning they commiserate with us but only
attempt to calm us thus infuriating us more.

I'd better stop here....

Regards, Barbara Nitz 

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