Dave

I understand the reason for IBM helping out with 3rd party costs , but
now you have the situation that the IBM software costs are the
biggest,
who do we scare them with ?.

Regards
Gerard

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dave Salt
Sent: 12 April 2006 11:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mainframe & Evil


From: "Chase, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Last upgrade in my small shop cost for just ISV software was
$300,000 in just upgrade fees.  I didn't need to change one piece of



code.  That's hard to defend.


To put it bluntly, it's indefensible.

    -jc-



Gouging by ISV's is a large part of the reason why mainframes are seen
by many as being uncompetitive. It has to stop. Fortunately, IBM has
realized this and has started competing directly against some of the
"offending"
ISV's with products of its own. Witness for example the new line of
IBM
File Manager products, which generally cost a fraction of what it
costs
to license competing ISV products.

Having said that, not all ISV's try to gouge their customers. I
know of
at least one ISV that charges a remarkably low flat rate for all of
their software, regardless of size or speed of mainframe.

Dave Salt

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