I don't feel guilty, we're paying for the support. I just like to do as much as I can on my own, how else can I be a Guru when I grow up?
Anyone know if a SHARE requirement for better trace info might get anywhere? Or maybe enhanced IPCS formatting of the trace entries? It's probably been tried before. Please all, let's save Darren the grief and not turn this into another demise of the sysprog/mainframe thread. -----Original Message----- Bob Shannon >I doubt my issue was a 'defect' so why would I open a defect ETR just to >have someone tell me what I was doing? >I would think that IBM would like us to debug our own problems (or at >least try) before 'bothering' them with diags. I agree with you philosophically, but reality is different. I had this exact discussion with an IBM VP from Poughkeepsie when OCO came out. I told him that it was a waste of my time to look at dumps without source code, and that I just called IBM and let them sort it out. That included problems with vendor code and problems that I may have caused. Nearly twenty years later nothing has changed. T this is one effect of OCO. Don't feel guilty. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

