Oh we had back-up, the problem was the total cock-up HSM made trying
to do the applyincremental and the fact that the catalogs weren't on the
toasted SLED.
    It was better than ten years ago, we've come some ways since then,
but I still don't like SMS management of SYSTEM disks and data.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. 
> (NIH/CIT) [C]
> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 9:08 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: FDR/ABR in large shops
> 
> You didn't back up your catalogs and HSM is to blame? Look in 
> the mirror bubba.
> 
> At my last shop I switched from FDR to DFDSS and the DR 
> Manager was surprised when we were ready to IPL an hour 
> faster than previously. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gibney, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:19 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: FDR/ABR in large shops
> 
>    We do both, but we're not large. We'd been using FDR for 
> ages before SMS was really anything. SMS and DFHSM were a big 
> "reduce human dasd management" idea in the early 90's and we 
> started and finished moving application data to SMS with 
> DFHSM managing them.
>    We still, and I'd really need to be convinced to do 
> otherwise, use FDR for system backup and recovery. Among 
> other reasons, it's still faster and the faster I can get a 
> base system up in a DR situation, the sooner I'll be in a 
> parallel restore Adabas and restore SMS managed dasd path.
>    Back in the SLED days, we had an HDA failure and out 
> catalogs were on SMS/HSM managed disk. Left a very bad task 
> and I remedied the catalog location forthwith.
>    JMHO
> 
> 
> Dave Gibney                              [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> System Programmer                        (509) 335-7359
> Information Technology
> Washington State University
> Pullman, WA 99164-1222
> 
> 

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