McKown, John : Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 01:28:50PM -0500: > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunkeler Peter > > >They are not useless. Real shops are saving real dollars! Just > > >ask any shop that has zAAPs and runs WebSphere or SAP on z/OS. > > > > IMHO, it's just plain stupid marketing driven nonsense. z/OS > > MVS has proven to be superior in managing very diverse > > workloads with a single pool of processors. As of now it has to > > manage three processor pools, three work queues,... I wonder > > what the next "speciality" engine (what a terribly misleaging > > term) will be. > > > > Wrong approach, IBM. > > I must respectfully disagree. It is not "stupid" marketting by > IBM. It is "smart" marketting by IBM. Why? Because although IBM > started the "tiered pricing" it is now endemic in the market. IBM > is trying to allow companies to legally upgrade their CPU power > without getting hit for software upgrade fees by other companies. > </snip>
> > However, I do agree that the entire "tiered pricing" is a > millstone on the zSeries. I understand the why of it. But > something better is required so that a company can run cost > effective software while the software vendors make a reasonable > profit. Unfortunately, I don't like anything that I've seen as a > proposed replacement. </...> if you (John) or anyone else really does understand the "why" of tiered pricing (beyond just having an efficient way to extract money) I'd really like to hear it. That sounded sufficiently sarcastic that I probably need to say that this is a serious question. Did/does IBM perceive a benefit to the *customer* as a result of tiered pricing... past or present? I've been in the mainframe world for 4 years, and that lack of exposure/experience is showing, I'm afraid. Frankly, pricing per MIPS sounds fundamentally unethical to me. But since I've never been involved in purchasing a mainframe, I can't say I see the big picture. I still see it as the purchase of a large asset, like a house. No one would charge you $10,000 less if you promise to brick-off the door to the second or third bedroom. And actually, I'm assuming the price/MIPS is a recurring fee. Perhaps it's just an up-front pricing scheme to induce a company to upgrade with at least a "partial" CP? Wade Curry Sr. Implementation Mgr AT&T Services, Inc. San Diego, CA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
