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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples
> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 1:37 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Mainframe Linux Mythbusting (Was: Using Java in 
> batch on z/OS?)
> 
> 

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> 
> Does anybody seriously dispute that Linux is popular?  That Linux is
> growing?  Including the mainframe?  What I am suggesting is 
> the following:
> 
> 1. More people here should add Linux to their knowledge base 
> -- ideally
> leading efforts in your shops to implement Linux for certain projects.
> Ostrich strategies do not work, IMHO.

I've been trying here, but the Windows people (at least in the past)
have been "driving the boat". The new CIO is more platform agnostic, but
as "a voice crying in the wilderness", I'm fairly ineffective in getting
anyone interested.

> 2. Many of you are already learning Linux (in effect) and 
> just don't know
> it.  USS skills are quite transferable.  (And you need at 
> least a little
> bit of USS knowledge to be a competent z/OS system programmer, in all
> candor.)

My was the reverse. I have been using Linux/Intel at home for quite a
while (finally 99.9% off of Windows!). z/OS UNIX was very easy to pick
up. The other z/OS sysprogs here basically don't like UNIX. I may need
to suggest a minor class on UNIX concepts for them (even invite
interested programmers - what a concept!)

> 3. Difficulty implementing Linux is exaggerated by many in this forum,
> truly.  It's not zero, but it's also not the Apollo Space 
> Program nor the
> Manhattan Project.

Unfortunately, I don't have a zSeries Linux to play with. I could do it
on Hercules/390 at home (I run MVS 3.8j at home! Makes me love the
enhancements in z/OS.) Installing Fedora Core 5 on an old Pentium III
was so simple as to be boring. On my AMD64, I run SuSE 9.3. SuSE 10.0 is
running on my laptop. Installing there were not difficult. YaST makes it
fairly simple. I even have a version of DB2 on my Linux/AMD64. Wish I
knew how to use it <grin>.

> 
> [ Speaking for myself, if that wasn't obvious. :-) ]
> 
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> Timothy F. Sipples



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