john gilmore wrote:
Gilbert Saint-Flour writes:
What you describe is "security through obscurity". I believe most people on this list agree that it is
 an ineffective way to protect a computer system.

and he may well be right that they do, although how he knows this is not clear to me.

I would venture a guess that he is judging from empirical data. Microsoft takes great pains not to divulge Windows code, or even all the available interfaces, yet doing this does very little to deter determined miscreants from releasing worms and viruses.

I have myself been writing mainframe assembly language routines since OS/PCP, and in this now long interval I cannot recall ever having spent time attempting to circumvent a security provision, but I have nevertheless discovered a number of plasces where such circumventions are possible, sometimes by blundering upon them and sometimes by observing the black-box behavior of OCO modules for other, wholly practical reasons.

In the beginning, in my case with 704/709 FAP as with PCP, there was neither security nor rudimentary system protection; a misbehaved program could overwrite the system, and ruin files. However, I consider some circumventions essential, related to the way a facility is operated. For example, opening a data set sets the access date in the format 1 DSCB; at my installation(s) we routinely copied and compressed data on selected volumes as a service to the user. Doing so with normal OS facilities invalidates meaningful information, whereas bypassing security by opening an entire volume as a data set avoids perturbing information. And yes, use of the program was restricted to a few specific system staffers by our security system.

'Decent obscurity' makes some things unavailable, or at least very much more difficult of access, to the unlearned; and this is useful.

I agree that RACF and similar facilities are vital to our industry, since a single breach could impact millions of people. And that "security through obscurity" serves the useful function of deterring all but determined individuals from creating problems; the majority tends to be intellectually lazy, and won't go out of its way to acquire information not of immediate benefit. How many people do you know who have used the Internet to find information on explosives (or in some cases remember their college chemistry)? Our society is lucky in that most of us with intellectual curiosity are not evil.

Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT

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