On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 08:59:35 EDT, IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>... >And how did you manage to do all the PITA work necessary? Did you start >JES2, then TSO (needs JESx alive to get started), then update files, then run >batch jobs (needs JESx to start) or started tasks (needs JESx to start) to test >out your changes? Or did your MSTR subsystem arrive already pre- customized >like that from IBM? >... But that's all beside the point. You have a pretty locked-down MVS without JES and TSO (although I know some Roscoe bigots that would argue that last point), but you still have a usable operating system. You can still run start tasks under MSTR and they work just fine without JES and TSO. In fact HASP and ASP per comopletely separate addons in the olden days, and wasn't available at all. (Pre-MVS but definitely not pre-OS.) Pat O'Keefe >My point is you can't do any meaningful work without some means of starting >a process (JESx) that either interacts with you (TSO) or at least reads card >images from some device (JESx), so that you can do the necessary PITA work. >After having used JESx to help you do all the work to customize the system, >then you can run TSO from MSTR, but not as the system comes from IBM. > >Bill Fairchild > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html >========================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
