In addition to connecting to the group, it is also necessary to logon
with this group as the default group.  Apparently, HSM does not honor
the list of groups option if it is active.

-----Original Message-----
From: Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: DFHSM question

Dear people,

This has been asked a 100 times already, search the archives:

Create a RACF group named "ARCCATGP". Connect your userid to this group.
Now
do a DELETE ... NOSCRATCH.

Kees.

"user713" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Yes, it normally is. But I can remember getting a "dataset not 
> migrated" message in cases like this, because the MCDS entry was 
> missing. I assumed that's the case here too, because the migriation 
> tape is gone. HDEL could work, but if there's only an old catalog
entry
> left, it wouldn't.
> 
> Steve Myers wrote:
> > Isn't this was HDEL dsn is for?
> >
> > user713 wrote:
> > > I think, DFHSM isn't called when you are connected to RACF group 
> > > ARCCATGP. If you specify this group when you log on to  TSO (field

> > > "group ident"), there will be no  RECALL attempt if you use DEL 
> > > NOSCRATCH.
> > >
> > > Walter
> > > Bagg_e wrote:
> > >> My HSM is a little rusty so check the manual for command
syntax....
> > >>
> > >> Due to the catalog entry for MIGRAT2, HSM will be invoked whether
you
> > >> try a "DELETE" with or without noscratch - HSM is called and it
returns
> > >> with a big fat ?
> > >>
> > >> A quick and dirty way to remove this is to use the HSEND FIXCDS
command
> > >> to delete the HSM record from the CDS that relates to the real
name of
> > >> the dataset (the 'A' record I think).
> > >>
> > >> To be really tidy, you could DISPLAY the 'A' record first to
obtain the
> > >> HSM "migrated name" of the dataset because this has an associated
'C'
> > >> record in the CDS.
> > >>
> > >> Then, just issue an "HSEND FIXDCS A 'real.dataset.name' DELETE"
command
> > >> to remove the A record and an "HSEND FIXCDS C 'hsm.hmig.name'
DELETE"
> > >> command to remove the C record and then "DELETE / NOSCRATCH" the 
> > >> catalog entry.
> > >>
> > >> You will probably still see a call to HSM from the delete
noscratch but
> > >> the entry should get deleted.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Bagg_e
> > >>
> > >> Bruce McKnight wrote:
> > >>> Greetings All!
> > >>>
> > >>> I have an old dataset in MIGRAT2 but the tape is long gone.  How
do I
> > >>> get the dataset name out of the system?
> > >>>
> > >>> TIA,
> > >>> Bruce
> > >
> 

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