Not just z/OS, but z/VSE and z/VM as well!  (z/TPF? Sure.)  

And I'd love to get a copy of BS2000/OSD and VM2000 to try to run under
Hercules.

I have wondered in the past if Fujitsu and/or Hitachi would be willing to
allow their versions of the operating systems out on a hobbyist license.  I
know there are beaucoup legal restrictions resulting out of the 1980's
lawsuits, but now that those 31-bit operating systems are "obsolete" (note
judicious use of quotes) in the true IBM iron world I wonder if things could
be relaxed.

I've still got my Great Software Idea T, but right now because of time and
other reasons I'm working on prototyping using M$ Visual C++ Express (still
free until November, folks!), even though I can see it running on all
platforms, not just Intel/AMD and z/Architecture.  (Anyone got a Bull with
GCOS 8 lying around  :-) ?  )

Later,
Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of R.S.
Sent: Friday October 06 2006 02:21
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: FW:A Letter To The FLEX-ES Community

Stephen Y Odo wrote:
[...]
> Also, IBM excludes all those students who would want to write programs 
> on the mainframe or just learn how.  They can get a Windows or Linux 
> laptop for about $1.5K with all the software they need.  The only way 
> they can do anything with z/OS is to get an account on somebody's 
> mainframe ... which is nearly impossible at our institution.
> 
> They can get a Linux box and start experimenting and learning without 
> having to write up a project proposal and getting approval to get 
> access to a system.

...or this persuades students to use Hercules and illegal copy of z/OS. 
Like some IBMers do.

BTW: wouldn't it be simpler just to give z/OS *for free* to all the
hobbyists, students, maniacs ? Like few other OS vendors did.
Obviously with limitations for personal, non-commercial use, on specified
HW, etc.
Small developers would pay $xxxx yearly as today.

OK, I know. I would make z/OS *popular* which seems to be against IBM
policy.

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