On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:44:56 +0900, Timothy Sipples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The zIIP technology is another reason you might see a decrease in >DB2 MLC starting with Version 8. Still yet another reason (for all IBM >software and most other software) is that the MSU basing changes from model >to model. If you get a System z9 with the same capacity as your z800/z900 >or prior model, then your MSUs (basis for software charges) will be about >19% lower. That means your software charges will be lower (not 19% lower, >but lower) for the same versions. And that's not counting zIIP, etc etc ... Please could we stop all this never ending marketing propaganda ? I feel like hearing myself when i go to my big boss asking him to replace my boxes . The only thing is that i know i am not telling the whole truth But luckily ( i hope) my chairman does not look at this list . So now let us not kid ourself . We know better , and the audience here is made of techies so let us have the whole picture : Give us the increase in consumption between a CICS 2.3 and a 3.1 . Give us the increase in consumption between a DB2 V7 and a DB2 V8 . Explain why IBM stops MLC on some products and oblige us to buy the license ( thus financing IBM years ahead , and us borrowing the money for financing) Why IBM refuses to charge Vwlc on products that they know is not used on the capacity of the machine ? Give use the real numbers . I happen to work in a small shop where i am a deciding factor for hardware, software , network and architecture choices . ( yeah i am a boss as well as a system guy) An i happen to pay the bills !(for mainframe ,for Windows,for Linux , and fo the network) so it is slightly more difficult to tell me how it works . I have never seen my mainframe software bill going down . Yes of course it is going down against the "mips" usage , but the amount of cycle is increasing because the software is consuming more , because all code is written in higher level languages . Because the disks are faster and the MVS dispatcher is dispatching a lot more quickly so the change of disk cost me 10 % more CPU the day after ( dS8100 ) the change to cics 3.1 is 7.6 % more consumption the day after The change from Db2 v7 to V8 will be how much ? ( i have already been given some figures at Guide Share Europe) This system brings so much money that IBM announced PVU's for other non mainframe platforms .( based on core , not yet on MSU's) If people like microsoft start also charging like IBM according to the megahertz race ,our 100 dollar license that was for a 300 mhz server will cost a million dollar on a dual 4 GHZ processor . ( ok yes it is a joke but it is the idea ) I just received 2 x z9 last week,because i was short on power with my z990's and the only way to do a business case was to plead for the one year warantee (reduced maintenance) the lower MSu rating ( you do that on false planned future increased consumption) , but you know and I know that i'll pay more software this year than last year and we will put it on increased demands as i already planned it in my 2007 budget . Bruno Bruno(dot)sugliani(at)groupemornay(dot)asso(dot)fr ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
