Lot's of snippage, but Mark strikes a point that is a major gripe with me...
-----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark H. Young Sent: Wednesday March 14 2007 11:22 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: "MVS Experience" On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:47:48 -0500, Rick Fochtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -------------------------<snip>----------------- Some of those "old farts" became lazy for learning because no one would listen to them, and their responsibilties and influence have been removed and thus waned. Some have been downsized so often, they have caved in. Doesn't mean even they don't have something to offer too. --------------------------<unsnip>--------------------------- <rant> My experience has been for 10+ years (if not longer) is that we mainframers cannot get the education for learning a lot of those new-fangled things. Education budgets are always among the first to be cut when the bean counters come a-callin'. I can't recall the last time I put in for an education item early in a budget cycle and it was still around when I'd like to use it. So we either have to learn it on the clock, which is very difficult because of "performs other duties as assigned", or we have to learn it in time off of work (and who has that?), and we can't use corporate resources for non-work related purposes, and there is no other resource where we can easily learn MF items on our own. </rant> Oh, well, just another case of "human resources" versus "employee relations"... Later, Ray ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
