R.S. I didn't realize this until last December, but there is something you can do with your Oracle licenses -- move them to another CPU. Strange as that may seem, Oracle licenses are by the number of CPUs, so a PC with a dual core Intel pays twice as much as a single core Intel. Likewise, a z/9 running Oracle on z/Linux (here we go again Ted -- Linux will rule the world) under z/VM on a single IFL costs the same as a PC. In fact, you can transfer the licenses around, so you could take a PC out of commission and use the Oracle license to run on z/Linux. John Anderson who works with IBM has made a great practice out of moving 100 Oracle licenses for various server farms onto single IFL on z/Linux. You never get back the one time charge, but you do save on the 22% annual maintenance for the license. John made a presentation at CMG on how this is done, anyone interested can e-mail me offline and I will give you the details. If you can beat join, just suck'em onto the mainframe.
Tom Moulder -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!) Ted MacNEIL wrote: >> I don't have a clue how many installations license MVS today > > According to a Canadian IBM'r, there are approximately 6,000 mainframe licences world-wide. > > To put it in perspective, there are approximately 230,000 Oracle licences. Ted, Others already criticised the numbers comparison, they're absolutely right. <vbg> Indeed, you can have 1000's licenses for Personal Oracle (or simply 100's Windows servers with Oracle on-board), while having 1 (*ONE*) license for DB2/CICS/whatever, running on your multi-CPC sysplex(es). I would like to further complement the "incomparability": You can shut down your CPC and stop paying for CICS - then you decrease number of CICS licenses. Oracle licenses are "one time charge" - we have several, despite we switched off the servers and replaced the applications. We're still allowed to use Oracle (however we don't intend to), we're still in 230.000 set. The same apply to canceled projects - there are plenty of never-used software licenses around the world! Such cases (never used or dropped licenses) increase base of OTCs, but not MLCs. Regards Happy Easter -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

