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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Saul Babonas) writes:
> Please colleagues, allow my to clarify by stating : 
>
> SET FAVORITEEXPLETIVE=''
>
> 1. I do not believe "other platforms" are &favoriteexpletive.
> 2. I am not arrogant and certainly not blind.
> 3. I am not responsible for the mainframe market share situation.  I neither
> buy nor sell mainframes.
> 4. I have heard the costs of hardware and software, but I still believe
> arrogance is no cost.
> 5. I do understand the competition (&favoriteexpletive).
> 6. Recent young graduates are free to work on any platform of their
> choosing.  Undoubtedly the market influences
>    their choices.
> 7. I do believe the learning curve for Novell, circa 1995, was orders of
> magnitude less than zOS + subsystems, circa 1995.
>
> So fast forward 12 years, "is learning to be a PC based network "sysprog"
> more difficult than zOS, less so, or about the same?
>
> Please note, final question is posed without beliefs, opinions, standpoints,
> political biases, or prejudices.  I reserve the right to invoke arrogance at
> some later date.   

a little x-over 
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#47 IBM Unionization
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#48 IBM Unionization

from afc ng thread ... w/regard to post references some national labs
...  discontinuing mainframe systems in the 90s because of inability to
fill positions for system support (schools were turning out lots of unix
skills but little or no mainframe skills). It wasn't a particular cost
issue, it was an issue about being able to find/hire the skills.

part of the problem is getting into a negative feedback loop ...
programs to turn out mainframe skills can take a decade ... once it
starts the reputation about skill shortages can contribute to choices
made about platforms to use ... and the choice about platforms to use
can contribute to choices about skills required.

for totally other topic drift ... in the very early 80s, the disk
division had a PC network server project ... part of the implementation
was being done under a work for hire contract by people in Provo.  For a
while, one of the people on the project was commuting between San Jose
and Provo nearly every week.  At some point, the corporation decided to
cancel the project ... and allowed the group in Provo to retain rights
to the work they had already been paid for.  Not long afterwards there
appeared a PC network server company out of Provo.

misc. past posts mentioning DataHub project:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/96.html#4a John Hartmann's Birthday Party
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000g.html#40 No more innovation?  Get serious
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002f.html#19 When will IBM buy Sun?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#79 Coulda, Woulda, Shoudda moments?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#33 Over-the-shoulder effect
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#26 MP cost effectiveness
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#13 Alpha performance, why?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004f.html#16 Infiniband - practicalities for small 
clusters
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#23 What ever happened to Tandem and 
NonStop OS ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#9 What ever happened to Tandem and 
NonStop OS ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#36 Intel strikes back with a parallel 
x86 design
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#39 Token-ring vs Ethernet - 10 years 
later
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006y.html#31 "The Elements of Programming Style"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#17 Is computer history taught now?

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