Mark

Indeed, "here we go again". The last outbreak - as I remember - was about 6 months ago.

Indeed the word "official" wasn't used - but it was strongly implied.[1]

I would ask you to do me the honour of taking the trouble to read ***my*** post. I specifically said that I had no objection to the use of USS for UNIX System Services if the context was clear - on this occasion and 6 months ago . Just don't try to state - or imply - that it is "official". Probably the "outbreak" 6 months ago was prompted by a possible confusion between USS as used to mean UNIX System Services and USS in its original, and hence "official", guise as VTAM's Unformatted System Services very likely in connection with various flavours of the TELNET server.

Clear?

Chris Mason

[1] As far as I can reconstruct the context - which I was not following closely, the sequence is as follows:

<quotes>

CC > > > >There are some subtle to significant differences from "real TSO(tm)",

SM > > > The batch TMP jobs we've been running for decades aren't real TSO?

CC > > No of course they're not.

SM > I've seen IBM documentation refer to it as batch TSO.

WD And I've seen IBM documentation refer to z/OS UNIX System Services as USS, so will you accept that?

</quotes>

This last comment was fired off at a well-known defender of the initials USS as belonging to VTAM - as all regular observers of the list dynamics are well aware.

Thus the context is something described as "real" and - to cap it all - to which I now find a trademark symbol attached!

QED

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Zelden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: Friday musings on the future of 3270 applications


Here we go again ...


If "USS" was "official" you would expect a massive number of hits.

Wayne (nor anyone else who has ever weighed in on this topic) never
claimed it was "official". Read his post... the word official was never used.

Of course I have no doubt that the developers among themselves use "USS"
very freely as will any, for example, redbook authors or SHARE attendees,
who come into contact with them.

Exactly... common usage and less keystrokes.  So what is the problem in
using it in a forum like this when everyone knows exactly what it means?
Are all the net jargon abbreviations"official". Do we waste time debating it?

All who object:  Feel free to spell out Unix System Services (I tend to
use "z/OS Unix" in my "formal" writings) in any posts you need to. Otherwise,
unless you really don't know what the OP was talking about, there is no
point in debating this over and over again.

--
Mark Zelden

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