Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 08:21:35 -0500, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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Exactly... common usage and less keystrokes. So what is the problem in using it in a forum like this when everyone knows exactly what it means? Are all the net jargon abbreviations"official". Do we waste time debating it?
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No, I'm not complaining about the pedantry; I'm adding to it.

Obviously not all net jargon is "official", but IBM has (or used to have) a
list of oficial IBM abreviations and USS is (was) in it as Unformated System Services, not Unix System Services.

Whether or not "everyone knows exactly what it means", there is not
time when I hear USS and automatically think "Unix". Not one! 30 years of working with VTAM guarantee that. And if Unix for z/OS is meant, I resent the mental stumble that causes. (Yup. I'm pretty intolerent.)
You find our pedantry irritating.  I (probably "we", but I can speak only
for myself) find your misuse of USS irritating.  So it's a draw.

Oh no, again!
Please, look at www.acronymfinder.com and find what USS can mean.
*25 results*. Not two, 25.
It is possible for acronym to have multiple meanings. So, it is not pedantry, it is wrong conviction, there the only one proper meaning.

Assuming, we talk English (I'm trying at least), all of the meanings can be abbreviated to the same acronym. Unformatted System Services in not worse or better than Unix System Services or Upload Speed Sense. English dictionary, i.e. Merriam-Webster will tell you exactly what acronym is. The definition is clear. There is no clause it have to be approved by IBM or any other entity. I don's see any reason why we should use IBM-approved acronyms. More: we use here (on IBM-MAIN) many other acronyms, like BTW, ITYM, FSVO, PFCSK, VBG to name a few. Some of them have multiple meanings, none of them is IBM-approved, but we still use them and *understand* them, don't we ? We also use "semi-official" acronym SMS (should be DFSMS). Even IBM books are full of USS in Unix, not VTAM context.

What is *primary* meaning of USS acronym ? Well, it depends. For you and S.Metz it is always Unformatted System Services. For me and *any mainframe specialist I ever met personally* it is Unix System Services aka z/OS UNIX. Of course my experience in this area is limited and biased (VTAM is not my speciality). Maybe like yours. For non-mainframe folks (yes there are a lot of them around us!) it is United States Ship, like USS Hornet or USS Pampanito. BTW: the last meaning of USS seems to be "more official" than VTAM-one, since it is used by US Government and US Army... <vbg>

Again, please, don't tell us what USS is. We know it, we can check it in acronymfinder.com (or elsewhere), finally we can ask when in doubt.

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