Phil
I see you have found the chink in my claim that subscribing to IBM-MAIN
supposes an interest in z/OS. Sometimes the discussion turns to hardware and
I see you contributed to the current thread "IBM obsoleting mainframe
hardware". You must have some software which helps find possibly interesting
posts/threads since you would otherwise find it very boring to wade through
the vast majority of posts which concern, often very intimately, z/OS
topics. The existence of IBM-VM and VSE-L and the usual redirection posts
for non-z/OS operating system topics does tend to indicate that IBM-MAIN is
the home for those who need their daily shot of z/OS and not others.
To say that this claim was "deluded" is out of all proportion with reality.
Simply saying you bother with IBM-MAIN because it occasionally deals with
hardware[*] would have been an adequate and acceptable response.
Indeed the current thread does presume a willingness to concentrate. There
is too much presupposing what is not actually in dispute which tends to
cloud comprehension.
And, as I pointed out to Greg Shirey, claiming the high ground and putting
out the light - wildly mixing metaphors - is not the way these discussions
work. You should be prepared to defend what you say. I guess it's not so
much fun anymore!
Then the thought occurred. Why on earth had you offered your "belief"
concerning USS in the first place given that the USS you had in mind was
UNIX System Services, a z/OS component?
Digging with some effort in the archives "up" the thread, as it were, I
found the answer: You're a Linux buff - which made IBM-MAIN appear even less
a likely home given there's so little of that platform mentioned. I guess it
should have its own list.
Then I checked all your approximately 30 posts in IBM-MAIN in the last three
years prior to this thread as recorded by Google. At [*] we may place also
the following "chinks":
- Linux on S/360 inheritance machines
- IBM software licensing issues
- the opportunity to make humorous observations
- VM topics to some extent shared with z/OS such as REXX
And I see you have form objecting to the association of "MVS" and
"mainframe" (2 Oct 2005, 06:01) which clearly extends to "MVS" and IBM-MAIN.
At about this point, I think Google jumped in and, to protect your privacy I
guess, blocked further probing.
Isn't it strange I had to do so much work to find out where you were "coming
from"?
And I see you are well known to the denizens even if you don't acknowledge
the prevailing religion.
I too subscribe to VSE-L and occasionally contribute but since you can't, as
you so facetiously put it, "spell VTAM", I doubt you'd notice.
Chris Mason
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Smith III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:24 AM
Subject: Re: The USS Heresy (was Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and
Hercules)
Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Phil Smith - who initiated, albeit unwittingly, this fresh eruption -
claims
rather oddly for a denizen of IBM-MAIN - that he is not a z/OS person.
One could, if one were so inclined, venture to suggest that anyone who
thinks that "IBM Mainframe" implies "z/OS" is himself somewhat deluded.
Fortunately, this respondent is not thus inclined.
As for the topic itself, I see that it has degenerated well beyond
rational discussion, and thus see no further point in continuing it. I
wouldn't have bothered to waste the bandwidth to mention this, but the
above comment seemed to reflect such a narrow world-view that I was unable
to avoid commenting on it.
Signing off (from this discussion -- not from IBM-MAIN, IBM-VM, VSE-L, or
any of the many other mainframe-related, not-necessarily-z/OS-related
lists to which I subscribe)
...phsiii
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