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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Mason) writes:
> One of the presentations was someone from a big UK bank who defended
> IBM having made the 155 and 165 available and relatively shortly
> afterwards having announced the 158 and 168 - together with the
> relatively expensive DAT box extension to the 155 and 165. I hope I'm
> remembering the details about right.
>
> I heard about this only second-hand but I believe the argument was
> that IBM was right to offer the enhanced performance of the 155 and
> 165 as soon as it could in spite of the fact that it knew that the
> virtual storage models were well advanced in development. I guess
> there was a shadow of the "it's illegal to preannounce" principle
> hanging over this.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#31 IBM obsoleting mainframe hardware
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#34 IBM obsoleting mainframe hardware

370/165 ... announce jun70
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_PP3165.html

370/168 ... announce aug72
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_PP3168.html

for virtual memory ... hacking virtual memory support into MVT (for
VS2/SVS) was needed in addition to the virtual memory hardware
retrofitted to 165s (there were significant software as well as hardware
schedules). 

this is similar to previous comments about *crash* program to try and
get out 370-xa (after FS project was killed) and POK in 1976, convincing
the corporation to shutdown vm370 product and transfer all the
developers to POK as part of being able to make mvs/xa (software)
schedule (although Endicott was eventually able to save part of the
vm370 product mission).

i've mentioned before about (370 virtual memory) prototype work that
went on in pok, using 360/67s and hacking "single address space" virtual
memory into the side of MVT ... as well as cobbling in cp67's (ccw
translation) CCWTRAN into MVT ... i.e. cp67 had started out having to
build "shadow" channel programs with real addresses ... for the virtual
machine's channel programs; all the (MVT) channel programs passed via
EXCP ... would be equivalent "virtual address" channel programs
... requiring similar translation (and misc. other things like page
locking/pinning)

recent posts about using CP67's CCWTRANS as part of turning MVT into
os2/svs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#6 IBM S/360 series operating systems 
history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#33 Historical curiosity question

The other part ... was that there was a lot of work to retrofit virtual
memory to 165 ... so much so that they ran into schedule problems.  In
order to buy back six months in the 165 virtual memory schedule, there
was an escalation dropping several features from the original 370
virtual memory architecture. Once the 165 engineers had won that battle,
then all the other processors (that had already completed their virtual
memory implementations) ... had to go back and remove the dropped
features.

recent posts mentioning 165-ii schedule issues and impact on dropping
features from original 370 virtual memory architecture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#7 IBM S/360 series operating systems 
history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#16 more shared segment archeology
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#43 z/VM usability
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#28 IBM 360 Model 20 Questions

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