> From: "R.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> And it is *still possible*. I don't mean cashing money, but copying your 
> card number. A lot of people know your card number (it is on the card!), 
> a lot of people know your SSN, address, etc. It cannot be treated as 
> secret data. If several entities know the data, then it's no longer 
> secret. IMHO no-one can rely on security of such data. Maybe except 
> pizza delivery. <g>

When I was moonlighting delivering pizzas at night for a little extra
income to pay off debt, and a respite from the daily systems programming
grind, there was a rule that we always had to see the card used to pay
over the phone at the door, and verify the numbers against the receipt.
One particular shop even gave us little pieces of carbon-like paper that
we were to take an imprint of the card on by rubbing the side of a pen
against it over the card, to prove that we had physically seen it.
Obviously, because there are of course any number of ways that someone
can get your card number and other information needed to make a
purchase.

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