Ed,

Joseph's question was about how to monitor HIPER fixes, not about how
and when to apply maintenance.  I try to always go through a current
round of RSU maintenance before a product goes into production to keep
it as current as possible just as Tom described.  

As Debbie pointed out, PSP buckets are important too, expecially because
of issues other than maintenance.

OOPS! Gotta run outside now and retrieve Junior before the lawn service
comes to mow!

John


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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ed Gould
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 2:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Listing HIPERS

On Aug 16, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Tergerson, John wrote:

> ------------SNIP______________________
> Ed, if you really have nothing better to do than look every half hour 
> for additional HIPER maintenance, you really need a life :)  Yesterday

> is current enough for me.
>
> John
>


If that is what is good for you fine, personally I would expect no less
from anyone. I would also expect to monitor all new hipers for at least
a week (or two) after maintenance goes on. I do have a life but
maintenance is part of it and if you had a baby would you leave it out
on the front lawn because you have checked the neighborhood for wolves
(and found none) ?

When my "baby" goes into production I am in proactive mode not reactive.
I don't wait for the wolf to come to my street corner. i also monitor
logrec and system dumps all the time. That is how you find things that
are in the process of breaking.

Saying that, not all hipers are really important. If there is one out
there for a component we don't use I don't rush to put it on, the next
round of IPL's is fine. But if a hiper PTF came out got lets say VSAM it
would go on as fast as I can schedule it (or sooner if it breaks
something).

This was a lesson learned by me after 5 years of MVS sysproging I have
constantly refined it over the years. Yes MVS has gotten better but
lessons learned, it is almost always better to be safe than have
something broke at 2AM. We don't have (anymore) mega ptf tapes thanks to
better testing by IBM but coders are not perfect and mistakes do happen.

Ed

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