Thanks Bruce, I also have SMCS consoles configured for us to use. My thing 
was and I think you answered it. Where do you IPL from and have NIP 
messages go to. I guess through the HMC (even though its ugly it does work). 

Then I can have them use either a icc or smcs to logon after the IPL. The 
problem is we still reply to JES2 and some messages before our automation 
kicks in. 
We may have to rethink it. 

Thanks for the reply
Andy

>
>You don't "need" any physical consoles..z/OS seems to run real fine.
>
>We have a few sysplex's here setup without any physical consoles....no
>3x74's, no 2074's, no Visara, no ICC.
>
>For console access, we use:-
>
>1:  HMC Operator Messages interface
>2:  SMCS consoles work real fine, especially in multi-lpar sysplex.
>

>
>I recommend you investigate SMCS consoles.
>
>Regards
>Bruce Hewson
>
>

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