I don't really care how the issue is resolved, whether APAR or PTF. As long as we've got friends like Peter and Jim to help us serve our companies, and customers, better, I'm all for it! WAD or BAD doesn't have a great distinction for me; I just want the best service I can give my company, and ultimately my company's customers. When people like Peter, Jim and other IBM'ers are willing to help, I'm grateful enough that I refuse to "look the gift horse in the mouth". They're trying to do their best for their customers, just as we are. It's just that their customers are a somewhat different subset of society than ours, so there's a somewhat different viewpoint involved.

I can only say "THANK YOU" to ALL the IBM'ers who are involved, however peripherally, in our discussions here. And ditto to all the other manufacturers' representatives who offer their help and advice here.

Those who disagree, feel to "flame on" in my direction.......... :-D

Rick
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Why didn't Noah swat those two mosquitoes??
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...
... Again
came the reply that this was the design of the msgid filter and the
design was not going to be changed, period. ...

For a long time it was (and I assume still is) IBM's policy that APARs are reports of "code defects" where the code does not correctly implement the design. There was no such thing as a "design defect". No matter how flawed the design, changing the design was viewed as an enhancement. "Broken as Designed" was not an APARable
condition.

Luckily, some support teams are willing to bend that rule if the flaw
is really obvious.  It helps if desired behavior matches documented
behavior.
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