I thought of retitling this post "In Defence of CA", but then I didn't.
I think CA deserves some of its bad reputation, especially in the pricing area. I know when I worked at P&H, they tried to make us buy a new license for database product when a sister company of ours moved their processing from their datacenter to ours. I don't think we paid CA anything for over a year while this was in dispute. We finally settled it by signing a 5 year agreement with CA. They threw in several free products also. More about that later. They are willing to negotiate, and the final deal was much cheaper than what we were paying for the individual products. Most of the old line products CA has are very well supported. I know CA1, 7, & 11 I always got very good support. We bought them when they were still Uccel. Panvalet also had very good support. There was only one product that we really had problems with. One of the free products mentioned above was a product for allocating more buffers for sequential and VSAM files. It worked OK for most things, but there were some files it would abend the program. The whole reason for having this product wasfor making this systerm run faster in its batch work. The BMC product it was going to replace worked fine. I know we worked with CA's support for months before we finally gave up. I, like Ted, would also consider working for CA if they offered me a job. When Ed Gould makes like CA is the evil empire, it really reflects badly on Ed. I try not to say bad things about other posters on this list, but Ed, I would strongly advise you to stop making the kind of comments about Scott and CA that you have lately. It really makes you look bad, not Scott or CA. I know you mean well, but its not working. The one thing you do well, is you sometimes post news articles that are relevant. When you say you can't remember very well, but you think this was the way it was, your probably better off not posting. I know when I can't remember exactly, and I'm too lazy to look it up, I just don't reply to a post. It always amazes me that so many people complain about Ed, but you just keep posting the same vitriol. Eric Bielefeld Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

