On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:22:48 -0600, Chase, John 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>...
>Thanks to all who have replied so far.  I'll reiterate that we DO NOT
>have any of the optional crypto hardware installed (yet); we have 
ONLY
>the CPACF DES/TDES (feature code 3863) enabled at present.  The 
optional
>crypto hardware is on next year's "wish list".
>...

We are also just beginning to get the crypto stuff up and running.
We have z/OS 1.8 on several z9s with CEX2 cards, so not at all 
the config in question, but we're definitely suffereing through some
very unclear doc.  The "z9-109 Crypto and TKE V5 Update" ref'ed
earlier in this thread has a wealth of info, but seems to be self
contradictory.  It says CPACF can be enabled independantly of
CEX2 (as you've done) and says that gives you support of both 
encryption and hashing (assuming you've picked the right cipher
suites).  But somewhere else it implies you get support only for
hashing.

It is also a bit vague about the software support provided by CPACF
instructions vs the hardware support provided by the CPACF 
hardware.  I assume "enabling" gives you both the hardware and
software support, but it's not very clear.

And then they mention the ICSF interface to CPACF and mention 
the benefits of using it instead of directly executing CPACF 
instructions.   But I don't know if you can execute ICSF if you don't
have the CEX2.  (I may have just missed that since we aren't in that 
boat.)

It would be nice if there were cleared doc - "z9 Crypto for Dummies"
or something - but there's little hope of that.  The topic is far too
obtuse for dummies to have a chance. (... which may explain the
problems I'm having.  :-) )

Pat O'Keefe
  

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