Sam

When I read the original poster's question, I thought he was discribing his 
environment like this:

CPU1:  ICF1, DB2A \__  DB2A and DB2B in the same Data Sharing Group
CPU2:  ICF2, DB2B /

If my simple diagram is correct, then given this configuration, the only way to 
failure-isolate SCA and LOCK is to system-manage duplex them.  I think their 
options might be described as follows:

1) Accept the cost of system-managed duplexing for his DB2 environment, 

or

2) If the overhead of system-managed duplexing for SCA and LOCK is too high, 
accept the outage potential because the structures are not failure-isolated, 

or

3) Purchase some (cheap? used?) hardware to run SCA and LOCK outside of 
the hardware footprints where his ICFs and DB2s are running today.

Brian


On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:35:24 -0500, Knutson, Sam wrote:

>NO!   You don't want to duplex the LOCK and SCA structures.
>
>We don't do it.
>IBM explicitly recommends not to do it under Planning for availability.
>
>Configure a simplexed SCA and lock structure in failure-isolated
>coupling facilities. (When duplexed, the SCA and lock structure do not
>need to be in failure-isolated coupling facilities.)
>Duplexing the SCA and lock structure offers marginally faster recovery
>times compared to dynamically rebuilding a simplexed SCA and lock
>structure. Duplexing also enables you to use internal coupling
>facilities (ICFs), which provide cost savings over stand-alone coupling
>facilities without compromising availability. However, before you decide
>to duplex the SCA and lock structure, you should consider that:
>
>Duplexing the SCA and lock structure does not add significant
>availability, because the structures can be rebuilt very quickly from
>in-memory data.
>Duplexing the SCA and lock structure can cause a significant impact on
>performance. In most cases, the overhead that is incurred by duplexing
>these structures outweighs the availability benefits of duplexing.
>
>
>The IGS Performance team related that they have found other customers
>doing this and the overhead was very high.
>
>        Best Regards,
>
>                Sam Knutson, GEICO
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Pawel Leszczynski
>Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 11:21 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: db2 lock structures duplexing
>
>Hello everybody,
>I've got a question to guys running DB2 in parallel sysplex environment.
>Do you duplex DB2 lock structures i.e. _LOCK and _SCA structure?
>What is the overhead connected with it?
>In our 2-node PS environment we don't have stand-alnone CF, only
>internal CF in two different footprints.
>We want to avoid situation when damage of one of the boxes
>will bring the whole DB2 sharing group down.
>
>Regards,
>Pawel Leszczynski

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