Yeah I figured there was an APAR out.  
Will get and install.  
In mean time will just have to add a step to init target packs any reply 'U' 37 
times

Cheers :-)

---- Justin Eastman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> The problem with doing the full volume copy even with nocopy is that track 0 
> is always copied which indicates where the VTOC is.  So if both of the 
> volumes do not have the VTOC in the same location then the volume will need 
> to be initted so that track zero VTOC field points to the true location of 
> the 
> VTOC.  If they are in the same place, then its possible that the tracks of 
> the 
> VTOC or VTOCIX of the source are updated and this kicks off a background 
> copy of the changed track which could then screw up the VTOC or VTOCIX on 
> the target volume if its position overlaps with the source volume.  
> 
> DFSMSdss has been changed in APAR OA18929 to perform a volume INIT when 
> FCWITHDRAW is specified on the DUMP when it is detected that it is needed.
> 
> Justin Eastman
> DFSMSdss Development
> 
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