Yes, but if the started task that has a PDSE loadlib can loose
connectivity to that loadlib because the SMSPDSE started task falls
over... risky...


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Clark Morris
Sent: 09 Januarie 2008 04:44 nm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Purge all members from a PDSE

On 8 Jan 2008 16:50:07 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

>On Jan 8, 2008, at 8:10 AM, Clark F Morris wrote:
>
>> On 8 Jan 2008 05:12:03 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
>>
>>> I thought the same thing. What exactly *do* PDSEs bring to the  
>>> table that
>>> PDSs didn't have or doesn't do?
>>
>> They do bring a number of good things like large load modules, the
>> theoretical ability for longer than 8 character names and the ability
>> to move forward.  They also bring the IDIOTIC idea that a library
DOES
>> NOT need to be accessible at IPL time and that access can be
>> interrupted by a started task abend.  This carries on the tradition
>> started by not being able to use locally attached SNA 3270's as
>> consoles because locally attached SNA 3270's were only usable through
>> the started VTAM task.
>>
>> Clark,
>
>Hmmmm since when can SYS1.LPALIB (or Nucleus or parmlib etc) can be  
>PDSe's ? They *CANNOT* be last I heard or are you pre-announcing  
>something? Or did I misread your entry? They can be in the link list  
>and APF listed but AFAIK they above libraries cannot be PDE's.

So far as I know that is still true and thus my RANT.  After all
started tasks start some time after IPL 
>
>Ed
>
Clark Morris

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