When asked about the significance of a college degree for a prospective
employee, a friend responded that it showed that the individual had to
do thing they didn't like or didn't want to do, but did them well enough
to pass.  The same could be said of any branch of military service. 


 Terry Traylor 
charlesSCHWAB 
TIS Mainframe Storage Management 
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A college degree can usually be taken as an indication of Ted's points. 
Provided other factors are allowed in place of a degree, I have no
problem with Ted's statements. 

I DO have a problem with the a blanket "college degree required" for a
job.

My highest year of school completed?  10th grade.  The Marine Corps took
care of the rest in return for 21 years of my life.

There are multiple paths to success.  College, while the most
traditional one, is not the only one.


Cheers,,,Steve

Steve Conway
Lead Systems Programmer
Information Systems & Services Division
Computer & Network Operations
Phone:   (703) 450-3156
Fax:        (703) 450-3197



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>A belief that formal education, diplomas, etc equate with intelligence,

competence, qualifications to perform an occupation is a widespread 
contemporary prejudice. It's got a similarity of a faith. Occasionally
expressions of this "faith" come up on this list, unchallenged, and they

irritate me.

This 'faith' is grounded in facts:

1. You require a minimal intelligence to get through formal education.
2. You need some grounding in the fundamentals of your trade.
3. You have to prove you are trainable.

If this is prejudice, so be it!

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Too busy driving to stop for gas!

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