On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:15:55 -0500, Burrell, C. Todd 
(CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>...
>1)  Install ANY OEM product with no help.
>2)  Install z/OS or another Serverpac with no help.
>3)  Debug a dump with no help.
>4)  Do at least some minimal assembler coding
>5)  Understand and be able to do most SMP/E work (like investigating
>sysmods and coding usermods).
>...

I know that this varies greatly from shop to shop, but I think the 
1st half of 2 is a whole lot bigger task than any of the tasks.  Since
there are rarely brand new installations now, "installing z/OS"
probably means "installing a new release of z/OS".  That means 
finding all stuff (not just just mods and USERMODs) that might 
possibly be release-dependant.  That alone can be a big subtask.
Having a good set of IVRs can reduce the work a lot, but I would 
still expect a good system programmer to not attempt to do it "with
no help" unless there is no other help available.  

Pat O'Keefe
   

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