IMHO it all depends how you define Sysprog. I have been in very nice
sysprog jobs where you can actually get on with the sysprogging, and
than I have been others where you spend more time babysitting the COBOL
programmers who are 'business-orientated-specialists' they know the
intrigued details of the layouts of the files, fields, etc, rate
calculations, etc... but cannot code JCL, cannot understand that a
development storage pool will fill-up if... Then there is the missing
scheduling specialist / ops analyst... All these things take up
additional sysprog time if they are not in place.

So depending on what is exactly expected. If all the other structures
are in place, like OPS Analysts, Change management... the number of
actual sysprogs can drop. 

The other factor that has an influence is whether your site wants to be
leading / bleeding edge or just a few months behind the rest of the
pack.

Regards

Herbie


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld
Sent: 12 Februarie 2008 04:07 nm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: z/OS system programmer staffing

I think many of the estimates people have givin on this thread seem
really high for the number of sysprogs to staff a z/OS site.  At P&H,
for the last 10 years or so, we had 3 sysprogs.  We only had a 115 MIP
machine, so were very small.  

I know of a couple of companies in Milwaukee, where the total sysprogs
are in the 4 to 8 range - i think closer to 4 than 8.  They both are
very large.  I know one has at least 15 to 20 Lpars on several machines.
The other is just one of the larger z boxes, and I don't know how many
Lpars there are.  My last job had 4 sysprogs with about 2,000 MIPS.
They only had 4 Lpars on 2 CPUs.  
--
Eric Bielefeld
Systems Programmer
Aviva USA
Des Moines, Iowa
515-645-5153

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