IMHO it all depends how you define Sysprog. I have been in very nice sysprog jobs where you can actually get on with the sysprogging, and than I have been others where you spend more time babysitting the COBOL programmers who are 'business-orientated-specialists' they know the intrigued details of the layouts of the files, fields, etc, rate calculations, etc... but cannot code JCL, cannot understand that a development storage pool will fill-up if... Then there is the missing scheduling specialist / ops analyst... All these things take up additional sysprog time if they are not in place.
So depending on what is exactly expected. If all the other structures are in place, like OPS Analysts, Change management... the number of actual sysprogs can drop. The other factor that has an influence is whether your site wants to be leading / bleeding edge or just a few months behind the rest of the pack. Regards Herbie -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: 12 Februarie 2008 04:07 nm To: [email protected] Subject: Re: z/OS system programmer staffing I think many of the estimates people have givin on this thread seem really high for the number of sysprogs to staff a z/OS site. At P&H, for the last 10 years or so, we had 3 sysprogs. We only had a 115 MIP machine, so were very small. I know of a couple of companies in Milwaukee, where the total sysprogs are in the 4 to 8 range - i think closer to 4 than 8. They both are very large. I know one has at least 15 to 20 Lpars on several machines. The other is just one of the larger z boxes, and I don't know how many Lpars there are. My last job had 4 sysprogs with about 2,000 MIPS. They only had 4 Lpars on 2 CPUs. -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Aviva USA Des Moines, Iowa 515-645-5153 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Elavon Financial Services Limited Registered in Ireland: Number 418442 Registered Office: Block E, 1st Floor, Cherrywood Business Park, Loughlinstown, Co. Dublin, Ireland Directors: Robert Abele (USA), John Collins, Terrance Dolan (USA), Pamela Joseph (USA), Declan Lynch, John McNally, Malcolm Towlson Elavon Financial Services Limited, trading as Elavon, is regulated by the Financial Regulator ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

