> -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Leahy > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:31 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: CA-Endevor
[snip] > > One question worth asking is *why* the programmers want to run their > compiles in the foreground? > > In my experience, foreground compiles are a desperate measure only > resorted to when batch turnaround is absolutely horrendous. Perhaps > that is the real problem that needs to be addressed. > I agree. But such actions by programmers generally only make a bad situation worse. I.e. if your machine is "maxed out", it doesn't help to have a programmer trying to "get ahead" by using TSO instead of batch for what is, in my opinion, a batch process. In fact, I regard it as selfish (which is normal for 99.9% of humanity when resources are scarce). I agree that the cure is to get enough resource that people aren't forced to try to "cheat the system". On the other hand, I've been places where there was enough CPU resource during the day to do compiles in a timely manner. But, thanks to a "costing" system, it was cheaper to run batch at night. So programming management declared that "most" compiles should be run over night. At the same time, they pushed to "get the work done!" Also, TSO was not properly accounted for. So programmers would "cheat" by doing TSO compiles. This just angered me at the managers, not the programmers. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
